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TONY ENGLAND · Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject:

Hey Joolz, i agree with Bartje. You can weld the rods but make sure its a good weld. I have extended the rods on my truck 'SCAR' because of the extra length on the chassis. They have been done for over a year and given no problems at all and thats with four people inside and camping gear in the back.
I welded the ends of the rods together, then slid a length of steel tube over the joint and welded that at each end (double strength) Very Happy

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JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

yeah, however unless you're doing custom wheelbase like Tonys car or such, your best bet in a regular 2cv chassis lowering job, is just to use rear Acadiane tie rod ends, and, in most cases, the actual ends on the 2cv are long enough...
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Joolz · Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:25 am Post subject:

Cheers guys, just to confuse people I want to shorten mine on a lowered car! I couldn't decide if I should shorten the tie rods or put a spacer between the tie rod and spring cup, but if it works for you I have a go at chopping the tie rod.

björn · Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 3:09 pm Post subject:

today i hade contact whit a company that make's springs
day cane make springs as hard as you oned
for about 200euro a set
if people are intrestit
late me know
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Harley · Posted: Thu Apr 30, 2009 2:38 pm Post subject: Spring Rates

I am having springs made uprated to 150%.
To get an acurate result the engineer needs to know how much the spring is compressed when on the bumb stops, both front and rear.
Also, how much pressure is on them when compressed?
And, What is there standard spring rate?

Cheers
Harley
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dyanut · Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 9:55 am Post subject: Re: Spring Rates

Harley,
can't help with the question as to how much the spring will be compressed, since surely that depends on how the suspension is set up?
That's also linked to whether the increased spring rates are achieved by reducing the number of 'working' turns or increasing the wire diameter, which will affect its ride height and clearance to the bump stops.

From what I recall, standard front springs are about 800 lbs/in and rears are closer to 880 lbs/in. ( Sorry about the imperial units, but maybe we'll go all metric one day.) Wink

Don't forget that the windings on front and rear springs run in opposite directions, so you should probably cut the canisters open and show the existing springs to the engineer.

Ken.

Harley · Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 12:15 pm Post subject: Re: Spring Rates

dyanut · Posted: Fri May 01, 2009 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: Spring Rates

Harley,
the smaller/shorter spring is the rear one.

Maybe have some fun with this spring rate calculator? Cool

< http://www.engineersedge.com/spring_comp_calc_k.htm >

Cheers, Ken

MattiH · Snailer Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3

Hey!

I have standard 2cv/Ami oil filled shocks on my 2cv and i tried to make those a bit harder by changing oils. The job went OK until i figured that every shock had a diffrent amount of oil inside..

So how much oil should there be in front, and back shocks?

Bart · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 10:26 am Post subject:

JuanNavarro · Posted: Wed May 20, 2009 2:39 pm Post subject: Springs rating measurement

2cvman · Snailer Joined: 08 Aug 2008 Posts: 20 Location: Monmouth

Good work doing the measurements, just facts no waffle.

MattiH · Snailer Joined: 19 May 2009 Posts: 3

Bart · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 7:58 pm Post subject:

björn · Posted: Thu May 21, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

there is one snailler hire that knows from experians
steffan!
he makes stiff shoks and brakes them to Laughing

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