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Jacob · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 8:41 am Post subject: "The Flier" - interesting kit car

Disclaimer:
This may be old news, as the car was premiered last November.
And I know this forum isn't about kit cars, but, well...

I find this kit quite interesting. Definitely the best I have ever seen based on the 2cv.
It is called "The Flier" and is designed and built by Greg Murrell (who previously worked at the kit car manufacturer Hawk).

(The roof slides behind the seats.)

It has a nice flow to it, but the rear looks a bit odd. I'd like to see picture of it from behind.

/J

TONY ENGLAND · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:02 am Post subject:

NICE

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Kustombart · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:07 am Post subject:

Like it.
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björn · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:39 pm Post subject:

wow same hire
beter than all the rest
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robin2cv · Dropped Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 144

nice
Is there more info about kits and prices?
Robin

Jacob · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 3:49 pm Post subject:

When it was shown it was only a prototype, not in production. The designer is checking intererst, I guess.

All info I have is found here:
http://www.pompeypuddleducks.co.uk/2cvnews.html
and here:
http://www.madabout-kitcars.com/kitcar/kitcar_news.php?shownews=102

The email to the creator is (as one can find in one of the linked articles): gpjmurrell@aol.com

/J

backfire · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject:

It has some great looking curves and a folding roof like that, wow. Burton, be aware of competition. But if I am reading correct, it uses a tubular frame with 2cv parts. So for the NL it will be difficult to get it on the road.
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dule · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 7:53 pm Post subject:

hm, I like it, wonder would would price tag look like

Kustombart · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:52 pm Post subject:

Even stranger: if you are going to use a new frame/chassis, why use a 2CV engine when you can just as easily use something more powerful and rear wheel driven?
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Spookeend · Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:35 pm Post subject:

that you can take the roof with you is really cool.

I wonder, this is a "prototype"?? Then, for easy acces to open roads, legally, the car might look a little different when a 2cv chassis will be used? And, wil lthe roof still fitt behind/under the seats??

On the other hand, when there will be an MOT or RDW on it, it might be more easy to build it and get it throug inspection?

Greatnix Spookeend
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Kustombart · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:06 am Post subject:

In the Uk, you don't need a standard chassis. You can build a car with a home-made chassis, engine from one car, suspension from another and a home made body. Then take your car to the single vehicle type approval. Once you have that, it can be imported into Holland, because officially, once it has been approved in one EU country, it should be permitted in all EU countries.

In that light, if I would build a car like that from scratch, I would use an engine with less limitations than a 2CV.
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backfire · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:57 pm Post subject:

If I am not mistaken, for getting easy MOT and you use e certain percentage of a street car, MOT is quicker to get. So of you use enough parts from 2cv MOT will be given as a 2cv car.
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Kustombart · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:07 pm Post subject:

There won't be much 2CV left if you make a new chassis and a new body and a new interior. He only used engine, drivetrain and axles.
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Bart · Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 11:16 pm Post subject:

You are both quite right though.

I'm not 100% sure about this, so correct me if I'm wrong. It is something like this: in the UK a car consists of 7 main parts and in between two MoTs you can modify 3, to keep it legal... however as far as I'm aware they do not really register modifications, so you can nearly do what you want ones you got a registration.

On the other hand for a proto type like/one of a kind car you can get SVA (single vehicle approval) which is by far not as tight as the dutch RDW or german TueV, not even talking about the french where probably every mod is forbidden?