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VasilAmi Snailer
Joined: 05 Nov 2012 Posts: 70 Location: Skopje
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Posted: Tue Dec 31, 2013 9:24 pm Post subject: |
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All my support from one cold garage to another :)
Happy new year |
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Ducksen Moderator
Joined: 14 Oct 2012 Posts: 105 Location: Zzee
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Posted: Wed Jan 01, 2014 7:06 pm Post subject: |
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Hee vasilami.
happy new year fomr my cold garage to you and good luck with the project. I'm almost finished can't wait to drive |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:00 pm Post subject: |
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It's cold in the garage and to wet outside for welding the bonnet
So it's time for some work inside and to use my brains
A few years ago I bought a worn out steering wheel which was used on the Barbot (Quillery Viraflex 42cm). They ask a lot of Euro's for these steering wheels as good ones are hard to get. But there's one big problem: The material Quillery used desintegrates over time and so was mine (too far gone to restore)...
Buying another one is a recipe for a real negative cashflow so I decided to use my 3d skills so I can print a new one with the use of a 3D printer. Here are the results:
And after some rendering:
It is still a bit rough but after printing I will make a mould of the print, trim the corners and pour a new steering wheel in fiber reinforced epoxy.... _________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein) |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:29 pm Post subject: |
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Some extra pic's.....
_________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein) |
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june Snailer
Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 82 Location: near Baden - Baden, Germany
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:49 pm Post subject: |
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Hello Meeuw
some years ago there was a discription how to repair such old steering whell in a german "old car" magazin. If you want I try to find out the articel, so you can try out a repair?
greetz June
you wrote:
A few years ago I bought a worn out steering wheel which was used on the Barbot (Quillery Viraflex 42cm). They ask a lot of Euro's for these steering wheels as good ones are hard to get. But there's one big problem: The material Quillery used desintegrates over time and so was mine (too far gone to restore)... _________________ WATCH OUT WHERE THE HUSKIES GO
AN' DON'T YOU EAT THAT YELLOW SNOW
CHANNELING is not a fashion, itīs PASSION! |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:08 pm Post subject: |
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Hi June,
Maybe it is a good idea to post it on the forum? I think there are more snailers who like to read about it.
Mine is really too far beond repair. The material has become so brittle that it pulverises when you put it in your hands. _________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein) |
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Harley Dropped
Joined: 26 Nov 2007 Posts: 394 Location: Braidwood - Australia
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 6:17 am Post subject: |
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Hi Meeuw!
That bonnet is really looking great
It's fantastic that your rolling it out on the English wheel yourself..
It's impressive how much work would have gone into the original Barbot, it's no wonder that there have been no outstanding replicas...until now
Harley _________________ Check out my Dinosaur www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPF_uU61als
Spot my 2cv www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zoq68CPLq4M |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Fri Jan 17, 2014 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Harley for your kind words.... I really appreciate your comment...
It is indeed a lot of work to get the shape of the bonnet as it should be. I think there are more than a 80 hours of labour already spend on just cutting, shaping, forming and welding. Not to mention the hours of research and the rest of the car.... I can really say that Barbot was a brilliant engineer and the garage of Vinatier Senior did an excellent job in constructing the car!
Compared to the work of Olli I am glad to get these results as he (and some others here on the forum) are real masters of metalworking. But I will get there, eventually
Here's a view from the back. I don't think someone has seen this picture in recent years.
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JoZeF Grave Digger
Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 2:58 am Post subject: |
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Those old steering wheels were made of powdered horn and bone in some glue type paste so obviously after 50 or 60 years they tend to have rotten a bit _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E.
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AZ Snailer
Joined: 11 Mar 2013 Posts: 48
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Posted: Sat Jan 18, 2014 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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Just a wild guess, maybe they were made from Celluloid or Nitrocellulose?
If it burns fiercely when lit, it could be an indication it is. |
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june Snailer
Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 82 Location: near Baden - Baden, Germany
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Posted: Mon Jan 20, 2014 10:09 pm Post subject: |
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Meeuw wrote: | Hi June,
Maybe it is a good idea to post it on the forum? I think there are more snailers who like to read about it.
Mine is really too far beond repair. The material has become so brittle that it pulverises when you put it in your hands. |
Hi Meeuw
I tried to find it and I only figured out it was Sonderheft Oldtimer Markt Interieur selbst restaurieren, Heft 33 2004. I am in contact with the publisher. I try to get a PDF about the steering wheel article.
Another idea for someone who knows something about wood craft is to replace the old material by wood, because under the old material should be almost a metal ring. And this you can use as the frame for the wood craft.
Greetz June _________________ WATCH OUT WHERE THE HUSKIES GO
AN' DON'T YOU EAT THAT YELLOW SNOW
CHANNELING is not a fashion, itīs PASSION! |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 7:41 pm Post subject: |
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I don't know exactly what kind of material the steering wheel is made from but it is easy to pulverise it. There is some fiber-like-structure in the material.
I think it will be great to have some information about how to restore an interior. Maybe it is a good idea to make a how-to topic containing easy tips&tricks?
The info from Oltimer Markt can be a good startingpoint for that.... Thanks June _________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein) |
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june Snailer
Joined: 31 Mar 2009 Posts: 82 Location: near Baden - Baden, Germany
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 8:42 pm Post subject: |
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Meeuw wrote: | I don't know exactly what kind of material the steering wheel is made from but it is easy to pulverise it. There is some fiber-like-structure in the material.
I think it will be great to have some information about how to restore an interior. Maybe it is a good idea to make a how-to topic containing easy tips&tricks?
The info from Oltimer Markt can be a good startingpoint for that.... Thanks June |
Hi Meeuw
today I got a copy of the article and I will scan it and than I will have it as a PDF file, but it is German. It is not easy to translate it, before posting it.
If somebody want, I will send the German PDF as PM
Greetz June _________________ WATCH OUT WHERE THE HUSKIES GO
AN' DON'T YOU EAT THAT YELLOW SNOW
CHANNELING is not a fashion, itīs PASSION! |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Wed Jan 22, 2014 10:45 pm Post subject: |
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Hi June,
I lived in Berlin for a few years... Es ist kein problem alles zu ubersetzen...
I'll send you a PM. [PM send] _________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge (Einstein) |
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Meeuw Dropped
Joined: 24 Sep 2008 Posts: 280 Location: Zandvoort, The Netherlands
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Posted: Thu Jan 23, 2014 6:19 pm Post subject: |
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Welded the bonnet today...... We're halfway
The next big thing is to shapen the bonnet with a hammer and a dolly.... Lots of fun but it will all look better after that...
Can't get any flatter than this...... And yes, I know I have to clean up the garage
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