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Citroën, Panhard and Renault three-bolt pattern
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Jacob
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:25 am    Post subject: Citroën, Panhard and Renault three-bolt pattern Reply with quote

The 2cv and GS share bolt pattern on their wheels.
Panhard 24 too has that pattern.
What about the three-bolt Renaults, like 4, 8 and 10, do they have the same pattern?
Any other cars with that pattern?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:30 am    Post subject: Re: Citroën, Panhard and Renault three-bolt pattern Reply with quote

Jacob wrote:
The 2cv and GS share bolt pattern on their wheels.
Panhard 24 too has that pattern.
What about the three-bolt Renaults, like 4, 8 and 10, do they have the same pattern?
Any other cars with that pattern?
/J


Peugeot 404 rims fit.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault 3 bolt does not fit, some peugeot 3 bolts do (203, 303).
No other wheels as far as I know.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peugeot 303 doesn't exist. Wink

you can fit (on AMI Super steering rods) :

Peugeot 203 403 and 404... saloon only because the pick up and estate have 5 bolt pattern

Citroen GS all types (although for style issues I don't recommend this Laughing)

Panhard I have no experience with.

But by the looks of the wheels on this photo (from a GSA Cottage) you can use Panhard 24 rims on a 2cv, again, I guess, with Ami Super steering rods.



You need Ami super steering rods cause otherwise the wheels rub on them. Or you need to modify the 2cv ones (heat + bending)

You might find you will have problems fitting Peugeot rims on the back too, because of clearance issues... I had them on my AZU 1500 TI, I had to pull the fenders out slightly even though it has an AMI rear axle... but they are now fitted to my AMI 8 Service and they are ok, although very close to the fenders.

I guess they will fit on a modern 2cv berline provided you fit an AMI Axle. But these rims are 1/2 inch wider if I remember rightly, so it's going to stick out somewhere...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JoZeF wrote:
Peugeot 303 doesn't exist. Wink


I just made that up to see if you were awake Confused
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a friend who has a Panhard 24. It current stands on GS rims, so I know they fit.

Peugeot 104 is also 3-lugged. I guess it has the same pattern as the 404 et. al.

Btw, what is the actual measure of the 2cv pattern?

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PS. I Just found that the Smart has 3x112! :-)
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If Peugeot 104 has the same, then I guess Citroën LN/LNA and Talbot Samba do too.
And the Visa?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jacob wrote:
If Peugeot 104 has the same, then I guess Citroën LN/LNA and Talbot Samba do too.
And the Visa?
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Visa's won't fit.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peugeot 104 neither

They're 13 inch anyway
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you like German style tuning, you might be able to find some Japonese 4x4 rims on a 6 bolt pattern that the 3 2cv lugs fall into.

I know that this has been done with Mitsu rims and Renault 8...

But I'd rather keep stock wheels personally Laughing
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, the problem is the opposite.
The reason I ask is that, for a strange project I am working on, I am looking for front spindles with disc brakes and the 2cv/GS bolt pattern. The spindles (or just the brakes) should preferably be from a car with rear(!) wheel drive as that is what my "thing" has. That is why I was hoping a bit for the Renault 8/10.
The reason?
I want to use 2cv rims.
(I'm using a front suspension in the rear, giving the 2cv/GS pattern.)
Strange, I know, but that's me... Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

hmmm...

ok...

Maybe you could use Dauphine wheels. some of them kinda look similar to old 2cv wheels :



with Renault 8 hubs and discs you'd be OK...
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that is a thought!
Even early Renault 4 rims could work.


But my goal is the Citroën pattern and 2cv rims.
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 5:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Renault 4 is 13 inch... so if you're using GS or 2cv gearbox, it won't do...

Otherwise you can have hubs and discs re drilled to suit the 2cv bolt pattern.

if you use Renault 8 parts it should be easy because the R8 pattern is wider than the 2cv so you should be able to fit it on.

Shame I threw some R8 halfshafts, discs and calipers away last week Neutral
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