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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:02 am    Post subject: Disc brakes on wheel side? Reply with quote

Hello you guys,

Because of my project I'm thinking of mounting disc brakes on the wheelside. But not on the rear-axle, but on the frontaxles!
Did anyone did this before?? Or has pictures of it? Or, better, knows how to??

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DON'T EVEN THINK THAT!!! It's going to be very dangerous, when You press brake, it will raise front end at stoppers far before there is enough braking power..!

You can "simulate" this with rear brakes, when reversing...
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Jasu, you are right!

Never thought of that........ oops Embarassed


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The TPV Prototypes were like that I think

it didn't go into the production 2cv in 1948... Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was thinking in that before, the solution is to provide another arm, and a "floating" spindle, just like in a parallel suspension system.

For this it will be necessary mount another front axle in the top of the present, with his arms, and mount a ball joint to the extreme of the arms for the spindle to rotate.

Just a thought.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 12:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That solution will work fine, it is like same as it is in springer front fork with motorcycles...
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would it be a problem? Peugeot speedfight has single arm Yamaha GTS1000 has, same way as 2cv has. The force of newton will be enough to keep je down. But I see more problems with the force on the steering rod when braking in a turn, more straign on the pivot pin and on the bearing.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backfire wrote:
Would it be a problem? Peugeot speedfight has single arm Yamaha GTS1000 has, same way as 2cv has.


They do work as said just before, cause brake is floating type.
Its not fixed on arm. Here is one floating solution:



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

with gts1000 calliper is mounted directly on pivot, same as you would have to do with 2cv.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But pivot is swingin in arm.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Not like in 2cv.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 9:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mmh your picture is showing exactly a 2cv swing-arm with pivot not? Only difference I can see is that 2cv is 1 steel bearer and this GTS has two ball bearers for pivotting. So far only problem I can see is that the load on the one 2cv pivot bearer is so high that it will not last very long. As opposed to the GTS which spreads the load to lower and top bearer. Maybe I am using the wrong words Olli? that could be.

PS great picture Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 10:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No.



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PostPosted: Mon Mar 30, 2009 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, now I see, missed that al together, top arm is clear now. Great, tnx Olli.
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