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Brooky · Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2009 10:14 pm Post subject:

I do wish people wouldn't pour scorn on this car, and the other ratrod (the one with the pure red-rust chopped body). These cars may not be to your particular taste but the builders have at least exhibited a good deal of talent in the execution of some pretty radical ideas.
Nobody else on here has gone this far and some of you guys are always on at people for not having the balls to cut cars up.
This is brave work and many of us have wanted to find a way of getting the front wheels well forward. Well this guy has done it. Whether you like the body or not, it's been well executed from what I can see of it. If this car was clothed in an early 2cv 4 light body you'd all be drooling over it!
So come on, give him a break please, if only for having the courage of his convictions & pushing the boundaries.
Brooky.[/quote]

SamClukkers · Lowered Joined: 23 Jun 2007 Posts: 774 Location: Belgium

Please, it's not about having great taste or having the balls to cut things up.

The problem is that you shouldn't see these creations as cars, but as a work of art. All of them are great pieces of art, but they don't make great cars. And I think the builder never had the purpose to build a great custom/hot rod/rat rod of whatever you want to call it, but a piece of art that happens to have four wheels and an engine.

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JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

It sounded good when you were talking about it

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Brooky · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 2:54 pm Post subject:

Hi Jozef,
I haven't got a clue who the builder is and I didn't know he had built something previously. Have you got a photo of his first one? I'd be very interested to see it.
I understand your point about useability and there are many aspects of this 'car' that are un-finished. What I'm applauding is the builders vision and willingness to go way beyond in concept even if you feel the execution is poor.
The photo Etienne posted seems to be the best way to go in terms of getting that wheels-forward vintage look. Simply shift the body back on the chassis and put the drivetrain in the back. I'd be interested to know what the back end of that car is going to look like.
Brooky.
P.S. I never used the word quality in my post! Razz

JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

The first one he built :

the second one is the orange one, and the third is the rear engine one...
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Brooky · Posted: Wed Mar 11, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject:

Ahh. Yes, I have seen that one. Don't like it. Too much like a cardboard mock up for Judge Dredd or something. I like the orange one. It just needs the messy engine tidying up a bit.
Same bloke built all three then? I begin to see the idea of him being more artist than engineer. But there are good ideas in all of them that could be translated into useable cars. The full enclosed rear wings on this one also appear on that gorgeous pastel green flatbed pick-up and they look wonderful on that.
Brooky.

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JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

I like your coupe idea... just without the trucker exhaust for me Wink

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JuanNavarro · Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 9:13 pm Post subject:

Thank you Jozef, probably you are very right with the exaust, is a unnecesary tuning part Laughing

Returning to the front-fenderless 2cv, my idea is to make this transformation is:
-Akadiane frame, 25cm more wheelbase.

-keep the body as is, and "keeping" the same location relative to the rear axis, so the front axle looks like it is advanced this 25cm (actually this means to move the body 25cm forward from where it is mounted the original), thats enough to align the wheels to the grille, avoiding the tractor-look, and if a chaneling is performed it will be aditional 25cm available for legroom Razz

-Mount a v-twin engine from harley, in the hope it is short enough to fit under the bonet

The last idea pretend to be something like the next arrangement (harley engine, bmw gearbox in this case, GS or typeA for my idea):

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