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Olli · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 8:56 pm Post subject:

I think this theory is worthless. Like Sam said A and AU frames are
completely same. AU frame has just shorter rear legs. I used to have
2 Azu. Other of them did have Amisuper frame, where I just cut 18cm off.

Fender is tilted cause body has been channeled from center.

-Olli
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Meeuw · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:07 pm Post subject:

Sam,

The issue is not the wheelbase but the length of the legs.The first saturday of the month there is always a 'magazijndag' at the EEEC in Soest. There was an AU and also an A. I've looked under both cars and I really believe there was a difference.

How come that my eyes tricked me so much? Confused

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Meeuw · Posted: Tue Sep 15, 2009 9:23 pm Post subject:

Apart from the chassis issue here are some photo's I took this evening:

The 'problem' with the rear end. Angle of the chassis is correct and also the angle of the fender. Please note the 'overlap' of the chassis. These are two parts with the 25cm overlap. If you place them after each other then you'll have the normal chassis length.

Low bonnet..........

And last but not least an overview. The wooden mockup is fixed on the concrete floor to keep everything aligned....

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björn · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 12:44 pm Post subject:

you are going strong my friend
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JuanNavarro · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 3:21 pm Post subject:

I think that this is a original drawing, and is very accurate, take a look at the frame:
http://www.citroenet.org.uk/passenger-cars/michelin/2cv/images/2cv-drawing-1-l.jpg
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Meeuw · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 7:15 pm Post subject:

Thanks Bjorn!

Juan,

Good find! I've used this image as a base for the initial 3D setup. It is really a good image and I agree that it could be an original Citroen drawing...

Furthermore I've started an enquiry for the original framenumbers. According to the licenseplate at least one of the cars was registered in the Paris region. Maybe there is an old archive from where I can find the original registration of the car...... Will travel to Paris in order to get all the info necessary......
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Olli · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:34 pm Post subject:

I have barbot model 1/43 in my desk. I was looking that it has quite
nice propotions, then I started to think if the wheel base is shortenned. I
compared it with other 2cv 1/43 models what I have and it did have same
wheelbase. Ofcourse no one say that it even close to real. But because of
that I made this pshop of this picture:

Hard to say.

Too bad we dont have picture straight from the side.

-Olli
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Meeuw · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:41 pm Post subject:

Olli,

Nice job. I used the upper part of the door for reference Wink

Will post some pics later, then you'll see what is confusing me.
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Tom Duckpower · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 9:52 pm Post subject:

Olli · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:11 pm Post subject:

Yeah! You are right, I have to check again. My Mehari was bolted on
plastic stand when I checked last time. I just check fast and didnt see
big difference cause I remembered this sentense:

Tom Duckpower · Posted: Wed Sep 16, 2009 10:18 pm Post subject:

Meeuw · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 8:31 pm Post subject:

Made a model comparison.

Model is based on serveral items: Wheel diameter, top of reardoor, front and rear fenders.

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Olli · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 9:36 pm Post subject:

dyanut · Posted: Thu Sep 17, 2009 11:56 pm Post subject:

Meeuw,
this may help resolve any doubts about the shape/profile of early Citroen chassis.
Note the list of A series types in the top left corner...

< http://www.flickr.com/photos/30132857@N06/3929322761/ >

In addition, I can confirm that the more 'modern' chassis can also be made on the same jig (except for Mehari 4x4 and Acadiane), therefore their rear longerons have the same degree of 'lift'.

For a Mehari or 250 chassis, the rear longerons are simply cut to the appropriate length, without altering their angle.

ken.

Meeuw · Posted: Fri Sep 18, 2009 12:03 am Post subject:

Ken, this is superb! Very Happy

Thanks!
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