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Etienne
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

backfire wrote:
I guess :)

but what about these

with thanks to the site mentioned above.


Any idea of the size? Shocked

That would be perfect!! Just instead of the springs!
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Etienne
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I found that:

Abmessung: Durchmesser Außen 15cm - Innen 5,5cm, Höhe 12cm - aufgeblasen 20cm

Size : outside diameter 15,5cm, inside 5,5cm, height 12cm to 20cm

Anybody know the diameter of the spring box?
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Etienne
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

1799 euros for the complete set!
http://shop.showtime-hydraulics.de//product_info.php?cPath=6_33&products_id=106&osCsid=c0e34041530752c1965019f5a4e9c674

or 199 euros one bag
http://shop.showtime-hydraulics.de//product_info.php?cPath=6_18&products_id=175&osCsid=c0e34041530752c1965019f5a4e9c674

This has a price of course...
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Bart
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Etienne wrote:
Anybody know the diameter of the spring box?
Not exactly, but about 15 cm as well!, so it should fit perfectly.
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JuanNavarro
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I said in my previous post, I have another idea to discuss about air suspension mounting but Ill tell you before why I dont think the hollow air spring mentioned will work.

Think that in a mcpherson arrangement, the spring bears only aprox 1/4 of the total car weight (ok more in the engine part) but this means for a tone car 250kg, and thus the small diameter and low pressure needed to rise de car.

In the 2cv arrangement, there is a lever ratio for each suspension arm, I think this relation is near 1:5, so the spring bears 5 times the weight that an arm bears, so this for a 2cv is 750kgr/4 x 5 = 937,5kg that is near 4 times the force that this mcpherson airspring is designed for, so you must rise 4 times the nominal pressure for the air spring and that exceeds the safety limit for a pressure device.

Said that, my idea is to mount a more standard air spring, using a fork arrangement to install it in the same place as the original springs.



There is in blue the original suspension pot stand, and in red the airspring, in darkgreen the fork arrangement.

Sorry for the hitech CAD drawing tool Wink
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daniel
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I buy these airbag´s on the photo



///picture link edited///please use servimg or something better than this minpic
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björn
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 8:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok you already have air ride on your car
those it work well and it rides ok?
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Etienne
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great! And how does it work?
(hope it's not for this weird thing on your avatar pic Laughing )

Tell more!! Please!! Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it is for my new 2cv projekt
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it looks like a '60'chassis?
what model 2cv are choping
pic's????
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Olli
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Daniel is really talking short about his doings.

-Olli
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daniel
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

it´s a charleston


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Malte
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey daniel , how are you?

survived the pernod?

your pic is only viewable here :)

http://www1.minpic.de/bild_anzeigen_kleiner.php?img=28204.JPG
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Green-Duckman
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey Daniël

Can you tell us more about your air ride system?
I really like to know if it works and how???

And ofcourse more about your project!
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Lionel
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 03, 2008 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

daniel wrote:
it´s a charleston


OK Daniel, but tell us more! I don't know of a factory charly with chopped top and no third window! Shocked
It looks good from this point of view. Bring out the pixes, please!
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