SNAIL

Clôd · Posted: Fri Aug 22, 2008 2:49 pm Post subject:

My balls were to expensive for you Laughing

... and there are not for sale ... my wife wouldn't agree
_________________
I'm a Rod Breaker

Kustombart · Posted: Sat Aug 23, 2008 11:57 am Post subject:

My girlfriend says anything has it's price...
About the price, let's first see if it works, then we talk.
_________________
Don't ask me what I think of you 'cause I might not give the answer that you want me to.

www.kustombart.com

björn · Posted: Sun Aug 24, 2008 9:12 am Post subject:

hope to make it on next saterday
becose i'm going along to pick up thise azu

_________________

JuanNavarro · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Or even hydraulic

I think that the solution can be inspired in the M35 suspension scheme, take a look at this link:
http://www.rotativementvotre.org/suspension-hydropneumatique-citroen-m35.php

Preserving the suspension rods, arms and its axis.
The scheme is not very clarifying about how the rods are linked to the hydraulic pistons, but to me it seems the next:

The hydraulic pistons are atached to the frame at the same longitudinal axis than the original suspension pots, maybe to the "tubes" that potrudes from the frame and supports both extremes of the pot.

The arms are modified and the connection to the rod are enlarged, so a more force is needed to achieve the same leveling, but with less travel, this is not a problem because this are the characteristics for the hydraulic piston, or a air cushion.

With this arrangement, the rod goes behind the hydraulic cylinder, and is linked to a lever, that is pushed by the hydraulic piston in its middle and linked to the frame just over the upper plane in some kind of articulation

Adapt this to the Air suspension seems not very difficult Twisted Evil

The idea of mounting subframes to bear the air cushions is not ideal because the type A frame is designed to work with axial stress but not al all with momentum stress, thats why all the suspension element that transmit some force are near the middle plane of the frame, causing basicaly tracction or compression forces.

I have another idea to discuss about air suspension mounting but Ill tell you later Wink

EirikJ · Snailer Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 36 Location: NOrWAY

M35:

Yes, why use air, when you can use hydraulic?
_________________
2CV x3
AMI 6 x1
DS x2
CX x1

backfire · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 5:54 pm Post subject:

So now we only need a parts list for this and drawings of the materials, so we can start building them. Looks the works, would love to hava that on my 2cv.
_________________
2CV, with Visa turbo charged

Malte · Lowered Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 534 Location: Germany

looks damn complicated that m35 stuff....
_________________
in rust we trust...

Olli · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject:

quasimillian · Snailer Joined: 26 Jul 2008 Posts: 33 Location: Belgrade

Not complicated at all. You guys are just not used to hydraulics. And green puddles are just under severely neglected cars.

Olli · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:54 pm Post subject:

We have been thinking to copy that M35 suspension for long, but
still didnt have time to do it. It needs quite a lots of making parts.
Not really "bolt on and weld a little project"

But, now I'm more thinking nice simple solution whit Air.
It would be so much more clean and if bossible much more simple.

-Olli
_________________
www.ollierkkila.com

Olli · Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 8:56 pm Post subject:

BTW, we have Hydraulic Topic so lets continue Fluid talk there Very Happy

-Olli
_________________
www.ollierkkila.com

JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

Air Ride will be much easier as far as installation and plumbing is concerned.

What will be complicated is making the mods to the chassis in a solid durable way.

I still believe that a complete home made chassis is the best solution.

you will be able to put the engine you want, ride height/body ratio you want (channeling) and use an air ride kit designed for an existing car, by fitting the right axle/suspension system.

OK, you're getting far from an original 2cv, and it would probably be just a silhouette car... but I must say a rear wheel drive/2cm ride height/more than 120 BHP 2cv is something I would quite like to have. Laughing

_________________
"That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" Laughing

O.E.

daniel · Snailer Joined: 09 Jul 2008 Posts: 11

I buy one for 195 euro

www.showtime-hydraulics.de

Olli · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 9:47 pm Post subject:

One what? One bag?

-Olli
_________________
www.ollierkkila.com

backfire · Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 10:47 pm Post subject:

I guess :)

but what about these

with thanks to the site mentioned above.
_________________
2CV, with Visa turbo charged