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Deuche Fester
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| Oh for those that care, the front side is screwed in 10mm and the rear is 20mm (to still be able to load something in the booth). |
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Kustombart
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:02 am Post subject: |
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You did put on longer "trekogen" I hope?
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Deuche Fester
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:35 am Post subject: |
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| Nope, just used the standard ones. If you're aiming at the risk that they are only screwed on 1cm, i agree. Tomorrow i will raise the car a little so that those things are screwed on 1,5 - 2 cm. |
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Kustombart
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 10:47 am Post subject: |
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I think 15mm thread is good enough but any less, I wouldn't risk it.
Longer (new) ones are available for about 15 euros apiece or you can use Acadiane rear ones, if you can get them off the car!
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Deuche Fester
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with you, after thinking about it, 1cm of threading is risky at the least.
If i can keep using the original ones, the longer ones are not that necassary, i believe. Those are really to slam the chassis way down beyond practical use. |
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JoZeF
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 12:44 pm Post subject: |
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No, not really... 
the aim of using Acadiane tie rod ends is to have a really low chassis, but with as much tie rod screwed in as possible...
Basically, low and safe, in other words, what you'd really like on your car, believe me
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Shedspeed
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:22 pm Post subject: |
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'Safe'? sounds like a byword for 'homosexual' to me, mine are screwed in 10mm and i rag the tits off it down a very bumpy potholed lane everyday, put loads of stresses on it and its fine, if it does come out, who cares? new tie rod ends are cheap and easy to get hold of. Of course, if you can get Acadiane ones, game on, winner etc, but its a bit silly to sacrifice lowness because of a silly thing called 'safety'.
On this subject, Ive just replaced the two front axle bolts on my car, there was about 1mm of bolt head left one side, so if you want lowness without the pain of changing these each service, then Id suggest welding a bit of 16mm round bar, or even better, 10x20mm flat bar between the axle bolts, if you can make a bolt on part instead, make it from Titanium, so you leave rooster tails of sparks as you cruise along.
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björn
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 7:35 pm Post subject: |
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this hase nothing to to white lowering but for got to post thise pic of dennis videling white hise car last week 
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JoZeF
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Shed : do you actually read and take in what's written ?
If you use acadiane rod ends you don't lose out on lowness... you can obtain same level of lowness, but with original amount of thread supported by the tie rod end... what's the problem ? they cost next to nothing, and while you're under the car you might as well slot 4 on instead of the original short ones...
Welding Iron on the chassis is a stupid thing to do...
'cause that effectively reduces you're lowness potential...
A better way round that is to shorten the screws on the thread side and french the heads in the chassis, so that you've got them nice and tucked inside away from the tarmack...
But what do I know... 
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Etienne
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| Posted: Fri May 23, 2008 8:37 pm Post subject: |
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With acadiane tie rod end, only on the front (regular tie rod for the rear), screwed to the maximum high, I've got that:
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JoZeF
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Looks good.
Bearing in mind you could probably slightly shorten them, if required. they're about 5cm longer than 2cv ones I think...
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Shedspeed
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| Quote: | | Shed : do you actually read and take in what's written ? |
Yeah, ta, I do, please read my post again, I said if you can get Acad tie rod ends, then thats lovely, and yes, as I agreed with you, you can go lower without having it hanging on a few threads, HOWEVER, if you cant get them (in the uk, we dont have millions of acad rear eye bolts sitting around, Ask Max, he cant get hold of any spares over here), there really isnt a problem running the threads only 10mm in, it aint gonna pull out.
Welding 16mm round or 10mm flat on the bottom of the chassis isnt a dumb idea, it doesnt prevent lowness in any way, it just means when your car inevitably hits the floor (and if it dont hit the floor, clearly its not low enough) you dont take the heads off the bolts.
Yes, having the heads in a recess will also work, but is far more work to acheive.
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Etienne
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| JoZeF wrote: | Looks good.
Bearing in mind you could probably slightly shorten them, if required. they're about 5cm longer than 2cv ones I think... |
They are 6cm longer I believe, and they are maybe a little bit too long for regular 2cv suspension... Olli can tell, even on the higway, the chassis was sometimes hitting the road.
In NL you can get some longer ones from Burton. I know they are shorter than the Acadiane ones, but I don't know their exact length.
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JoZeF
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I'm pretty certain Etienne's car for example can go lower than yours and it doesn't hit the floor... and that's thanks to proper work on the chassis (proper suspension setup)
If doing decent mods is too much work, what can I say. It's not my way of seeing things, not on stuff like engines and drivetrain/suspension... I apologize that it annoys me to read stuff like "who cares if it snaps".
True Acads aren't morris minors in UK (spares availability is usually somethng to consider before buying a car ), if anyone needs any Acadiane parts there is a classified section on this message board and I'm sure I can probably help out quite cheaply provided postage is paid. Maybe even dunkerque area french Snailers (Tibo ?) could locate one in a breakers you could come over to cut up.
You can also lengthen original tie rod ends, that's always a good option when citroen parts arent available
cheers
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Etienne
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| Posted: Sat May 24, 2008 12:47 pm Post subject: |
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Definetly, stiffer springs are the best thing ever to buy! And you don't even need the acadiane tie rod anymore cause the springs are 5cm shorter...
I have 4 extra rear acadiane tie rod. I may sell them... dunno yet.
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