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Brooky
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 3:30 pm    Post subject: Hot rod drive. Reply with quote

Does anybody on here know anything about the car in the picture I've hopefully added below?
I assume it's rear-engined but is it a 2cv engine and if so, how do you arrange the driveshafts so that the rear wheels are locked in the straight-ahead position? Do you use front arms on the rear axle tube?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep, front arms on the rear tube. then you weld the kingpins so that the wheels no longer turn...

Just like a 4x4 2cv.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can make them like this:

http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k193/Jasun_kuveja/2cv-Dyane/Transmission/2007-10-17-1815-28.jpg
http://i88.photobucket.com/albums/k193/Jasun_kuveja/2cv-Dyane/Transmission/2007-10-17-1816-36.jpg

Wild guess. Who's hand is in one picture..?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I understood that this isn't really a driving car, like the others, it's a rolling sculpture?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh I see! Didn't realise it wasn't a real car. That's a shame because although I don't like the cab, I do like the idea of getting the bonnet way back behind the front wheels in true hot rod fashion.
I guess you could still have the car front engined and get the bonnet further back by turning the engine & gearbox round and swapping the crown wheel in the diff onto the other side.
Has anybody done that? It would allow a much lower bonnet line as well.
Are there any examples of such a mod?
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This one does drive...
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

without front breaks..... Rolling Eyes Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Actually, take that back. Turning the engine & gearbox round would be very nearly impossible. The engine would be in the cab with you!
I'm so stupid sometimes!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooky wrote:
Oh I see! Didn't realise it wasn't a real car. That's a shame because although I don't like the cab, I do like the idea of getting the bonnet way back behind the front wheels in true hot rod fashion.
I guess you could still have the car front engined and get the bonnet further back by turning the engine & gearbox round and swapping the crown wheel in the diff onto the other side.
Has anybody done that? It would allow a much lower bonnet line as well.
Are there any examples of such a mod?
Brooky.


Example Renault 4.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 11:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brooky wrote:
Actually, take that back. Turning the engine & gearbox round would be very nearly impossible. The engine would be in the cab with you!
I'm so stupid sometimes!
Brooky.


Ever hear Citroen 2cv Sahara? 2cv gearbox must be one of easies where
you can change the direction.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stefan wrote:
without front breaks..... Rolling Eyes Shocked


I didn't say it was street legal and driven to work...

there are some much much much much much much much much nicer/meaner/faster/stronger cars than this P.O.S. that are driven with no front brakes...

a few examples :



"Littleman's" Death's Doorstep, from Ohio



Nico's A Coupe, from south France.

And they are just 2 examples from hundreds.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

wow i was suprised but now i'm even more suprised. but why don't they have front brakes? just for the looks? i almost can't believe that they can brake hard with these cars.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 11:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not using front brakes becomes from drag racing what hotrods many times in
50's used to be. Leaving front brakes off you save many KG in american cars.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Nico has to anticipate a lot... Laughing

But the rear axle on Littleman's Coupe is equipped with big ventilated discs and Giant Wilwood calipers... I think he doesn't do too badly on the braking side of things.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would like to have front brakes on my car. Especially if I had a 400+ hp light hotrod with no crumple zone, airbag etc.

You can have very big brakes on the rear wheels but during braking, most of the weight shifts to the front wheels. So no pressure on the rear tires and only skidding.
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