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koets · Snailer Joined: 02 Mar 2009 Posts: 31

Hey diek! Yori here on Jesper`s account finally a subaru project Twisted Evil

it will be awesome Very Happy

at least i hope so Razz

Jesper bought a 2cv also a while ago Sanne is driving it for now until
Jesper is back from afghanistan Very Happy

here is his topic

http://www.snail.s4.bizhat.com/viewtopic.php?t=776

Grtz!

Diek2cv · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:30 am Post subject:

Hey Yori and Jesper! Nice to meet you brothers here too!

Tonight I took out the complete cable-tree (?) Pff, 30 kilos of wires!!
I sure will need some help here later on:

And here you can see the size of the engine and gearbox (without the rearaxle for 4wd) It's big!.. And not much place to fit a brake system on the gearbox.

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Olli · Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:02 pm Post subject:

you are going to run this subaru thecnic on amisuper frame and axles?
First I tought that you will use subaru axles on it.

Are the gardan axle bearings enough strong that you can fit the brakes next to Gbox?

-Olli
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Diek2cv · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 1:04 pm Post subject:

First I was thinking of using the Subaru axles and technic but it is way too wide. (1460mm) so that would be very difficult to use. Or big modifications will be needed.
Now I'm thinking of using indeed the Ami Super axles and so on.

But that can change again! I'll see during the building what would be the best solution.

Bearings of the gearbox for fitting brakes should be strong enough, those Japaneze/Korean guys build technical nice and strong cars that last!
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Olli · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:06 pm Post subject:

Diek2cv · Posted: Mon Mar 23, 2009 8:23 pm Post subject:

Diek2cv · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 10:56 am Post subject:

Yesterday I took off the 2cv body from the Super chassis and took the Axel-engine out.
I lifted the body and put the engine of the Subaru on the chassis just to look if it will fit a bit nice. And it fits actually very well! :)
It's not too high or too long only a bit wide, but I hope I can fit that under the wings.
Because the Subaru engine itself is a lot shorter dan GS/Axel the place of the driveaxles is very good. Of course there is a small angle but that is original with the Subaru also, so that must be no problem.

I fitted a hood on it (on the good hight etc.) just to get an idea. On the pic's the chassis is very low, this is not due to the weight of the engine but a remain of the "cool" looks the Super 2cv had... Wink

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Wout · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:

Diek,

How do you pass the control?
Or how did you do that with your 4x4?
Or are you just going to drive with it on the road?

I'm curieus to see the result of 200HP in a 2cv Very Happy

Good luck with it

Olli · Posted: Thu Mar 26, 2009 6:22 pm Post subject:

Cool, hope you can keep nose as stock as bossible!

-Olli
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JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

could you not rebuild the GS box with stronger bearings and use it with an adapter plate ?

I'm sure it could withstand the power...
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Diek2cv · Posted: Fri Mar 27, 2009 12:33 am Post subject:

JoZeF · Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734

Well, a 602 gearbox stands a GS engine despite what most people have read (but not tested). People have used 170 HP YAMAHA R1 engines on Bond Bug rear axles (designed for 35 HP) with no breakage, so with the proper bearings and decent oil it could be possible.

Alfasud gearbox could also be an option, the 1700 16V is 140 HP and they have been successfully tuned to 300 HP

But if you can get adapters made easy and cheap, I guess it would be easier with stock gear box
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Diek2cv · Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:19 pm Post subject:

Today I worked a bit on the chassis. First I was thinking of using a new and galvanised one in stead of the Super chassis, but I decided first to reinforce this one on the inside just to give it a good try. If it doesn't work out, I can always buy an galvanised one!
I first just opened the front, tomorrow I will do the rest and start measuring.

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Diek2cv · Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 11:25 pm Post subject:

The top-plate is gone now and also the two half-circles.

Now I can make some extra cross beams for extra strength and anti-torsion.

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Diek2cv · Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 10:52 am Post subject:

A small update;

sadly I have been really busy with my work, so not very much has been done... But the folded metal to reinforce the chassis has arrived and I found a company who can make me the adapters from Subaru-gearbox to 2cv drivingaxles.

The "only" big thing now is actually to fix the wiring...... :s

This weekend to a meeting in Ter Apel (north-east of Holland) and hopefully next week a bit time, but I'm afraid not too much because I still have some things to do on my dad's and mine '71 Lancia Fulvia Rallye 1600HF'. Because we are going to drive the www.tulpenrallye.nl with it! (Starts in Annecy F and ends a week later in Noordwijk NL)

And when we just got it from Italy: (3 months ago now)

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