SNAIL ☠ Vintage School 2CV    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Marc2cv1.5ti project Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4          SNAIL Forum Index -> Your ride View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message JoZeF Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:41 pm    Post subject: My 1969 renault 8 had a 75 bhp 1400cc in the back and just the battery and spare wheel in the front. It was awesomely cool to drive. and it wasn't mid engined This 2cv should be very fun, provided the suspensions are hard enough _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E. Back to top marc2cv Snailer Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 22 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:53 pm    Post subject: Ramon2cv wrote: maybe its better to put a normal 2cv engine/ or some stone in the front for better steering, only for the down force, yeah, thought about that to, however i need the space there for the gastank and the radiator. that why i was thinking of making a cageconstruction for the gearbox and use de space of the "normal engine" for the other stuff. But if you have an better idea, ..... o, and the 2cv brakes, aren't they a little to small for the weight of the car? _________________ 2cv 1.5 ti mid-engine Back to top JoZeF Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 6:58 pm    Post subject: use just a 2cv gearbox and fill it with cement I'd say the 2cv disks are enough for the car. My Alfa Ami had Alfa discs on front and AMI 8 drums on back and was perfectly good enough (at the time ) _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E. Back to top marc2cv Snailer Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 22 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:25 pm    Post subject: JoZeF wrote: use just a 2cv gearbox and fill it with cement I'd say the 2cv disks are enough for the car. My Alfa Ami had Alfa discs on front and AMI 8 drums on back and was perfectly good enough (at the time ) heey, i saw the advertisment of your alfa ami, so it is sold now. why? not practical, fast enough. or a new project or just someting else? maybe i try just a 2cv box. gr.M _________________ 2cv 1.5 ti mid-engine Back to top JoZeF Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734 Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:52 pm    Post subject: hiya no, not sold yet. not really done much about it. it seems fast enough, though. I have (too) many other things to finish but I've got plans for it once the easy ones are done. _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E. Back to top Jasu Dropped Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 211 Location: Finland Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 9:37 pm    Post subject: 2cv brake disc has same diameter as Bx, GSA brake disc has same diameter as Xm V6 and Td..! Just for thinking about is GSA brakes "enough"... _________________ Make it today, tomorrow it's probably illegal... Back to top Bart Lowered Joined: 17 Jun 2007 Posts: 783 Location: Södertälje Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:35 am    Post subject: Mind you that it is not only about the disc size, but also abouth the surface area of the piston(s) in the caliper and the pressure of the brake fluid behind them. _________________ I like to play Back to top JoZeF Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:42 am    Post subject: true as said earlier... An AMI 8 (heavy body) on a Super chassis (heavy chassis) with an Alfasud 1500 engine and gearbox, is correctly braked with the Alfa brakes and AMI 8 drums. I'm sure a 2cv disc brake gearbox on the front of the car will be more than good enough. _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E. Back to top Jasu Dropped Joined: 30 Sep 2007 Posts: 211 Location: Finland Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 12:52 am    Post subject: Front brakes can be "too good" if front end of car is "too light"... So, front wheels locks up so early when rear wheels doesn't even brake jet... Ok, with brake balancer (pedal-box) that could be corrected what limits brake pressure... Something more about Bx brakes. I measured some years ago brakecaliber pistons, and compared them to 2cv pistons. In Bx brake there is one piston, 2cv has two, Bx piston is much bigger, but after calculation brake power was almost equal..! _________________ Make it today, tomorrow it's probably illegal... Back to top marc2cv Snailer Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 22 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 10:49 am    Post subject: JoZeF wrote: true as said earlier... An AMI 8 (heavy body) on a Super chassis (heavy chassis) with an Alfasud 1500 engine and gearbox, is correctly braked with the Alfa brakes and AMI 8 drums. I'm sure a 2cv disc brake gearbox on the front of the car will be more than good enough. thanx for al the info. I forgot to say i am using the headpressurecylinder of the alfasud and a brakeprsure aranger? is that the right word? so the brakes will be oke. _________________ 2cv 1.5 ti mid-engine Back to top Jacobus_XIII Snailer Joined: 01 Jul 2007 Posts: 44 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:06 am    Post subject: marc2cv wrote: JoZeF wrote: true as said earlier... An AMI 8 (heavy body) on a Super chassis (heavy chassis) with an Alfasud 1500 engine and gearbox, is correctly braked with the Alfa brakes and AMI 8 drums. I'm sure a 2cv disc brake gearbox on the front of the car will be more than good enough. thanx for al the info. I forgot to say i am using the headpressurecylinder of the alfasud and a brakeprsure aranger? is that the right word? so the brakes will be oke. He Marc, Picking up your project? My house is almost finished, so within a few weeks I'm also going to work on my project again I think fitting the right brakes is just try and (hopefully not to much) error. Like Jazu and Jozef said, you need more break power in the back. Just try an 2cv gearbox to find out if you need more break power in the front (I don't think so). Back to top JoZeF Grave Digger Joined: 25 May 2007 Posts: 1734 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 11:36 am    Post subject: maybe even a drumbrake gear box, cause you have DOT brake fluid so no problems with LHM, and a bit less brake power, maybe ? What are your plans for the suspension ? cheers _________________ "That bumper fits there like sunglasses on pig" O.E. Back to top marc2cv Snailer Joined: 14 Jan 2008 Posts: 22 Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: JoZeF wrote: maybe even a drumbrake gear box, cause you have DOT brake fluid so no problems with LHM, and a bit less brake power, maybe ? What are your plans for the suspension ? cheers i can buy avo's from a3 so in combination with the ami-super chassis orginal springs and stabi's in front and rear i hope it wil work fine. _________________ 2cv 1.5 ti mid-engine Back to top ratstyle Dropped Joined: 15 Nov 2008 Posts: 106 Location: dalfsen, holland Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 8:54 pm    Post subject: Any progress?????? _________________ "Rat look is just an excuse to stop a restoration half way............." 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