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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:13 pm    Post subject: sidney with a bling interior? Reply with quote

hi, Im new here so Id better introduce myself a bit before starting the thread.err... english now living in deepest catalunya, spain, ex architect turned furniture designer. basically Ive spent the last 20 years making prototype furniture in steel and stainless.

Ive always been into classic cars and custom stuff, and Ive long been frustrated by the lack of a scene in spain. I was looking at a new classic..something to do...and I realised the only things in my budget here are either seat 600 or 2cv...so instead of fighting it I decided (against all advice!) to go with the flow.

I should say that I always thought 2cv,s were weird looking hippy cars, until I saw a rotting azu slumped into the ground and up for sale



this got me looking at patina and lowered 2cvs and google suggested this forum of course. Very Happy

the azu got away as my work s van died and caused a july full of bills and headaches.
since then I looked at an ak400 but wasnt convinced by the big shell, or the idea of road tests every 6 months as a commercial vehicle!.

so found a cheap 2cv6 with easy papers, and good bodywork, and took it home

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turns out the salesman was lieing through his teeth and the chassis was cracked. all this was last week

since then the engine has seized whilst trying to turn it over, and Ive stripped it to sort out the chassis and floor panels, which were repaired with newspaper and bitumen! Shocked

so obviously lowering and channeling!...the back rods have been unscrewed to the safe minimum, but the front untouched as yet. its a raked channel from back to front, the chassis rails rest under the boot lip at the moment taking the body down to bump stop level at the moment.

this tapers to about 7cm (sill level) at the front door hinges, so it should be less at the front and there fore I avoid major headaches with engine heights etc..and I still have the suspension bars to play with at the front.

Im kind of going for the sat dowd citroen look..(ds, cx etc) but I have to be careful as there are speed bumps everywhere here.

also , all the interior stuff is stainless, just because I had a sheet hanging around, and it saves painting.

this however is turning into a theme...Im starting to imagine a total stainless interior (dash excluded) including the seats etc...not sure yet

er. heres the pix from yesterday, Ill stick some more on later this evening when Im done with the floor

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Mon Aug 19, 2013 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

more panels cut and spotted in, starting to look like a robot of some form!. pleased with the progress I want it back together by the beginning of september..ideally with motor bloody working!

heres the latest from this afternoon




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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice work SiG!

Very unique approach to channeling!
A friend was considering modifying a chassis as a foot well buy removing part of the top plate so his feet could get lower in... The way you have channeled Sidney at the rear reminds me of that, although it looks like yours is 0cm channelled at the front, correct?

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 8:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you would think so wouldnt you with the rake that there should be 0 at the front, but err I seem to have gained about 8cm at the front, I suppose Im forcing the wings in some strange way, but it seems to look right???

.Ive been sorting the body position just now as it happens readying for the pedal floor. so what Ive got now is....

gearbox now just about touching the bulkhead
at the same time the bonnet is down on the alternator more or less (which I dropped to get it lower assuming that there will be a smaller diametre belt somewhere in the market ...please tell me yes!)...err the light brackets have been cut about 8cm which seems to be the max without major surgery

they also need setting back by 2cm for some reason to slot into the bonnet holes

what else? , oh the electrical relay thing (?) has been taken off and moved back

its pretty much as tight as can be in there and Ive only gained 8cm drop..which surprises me a little

oh and the inner wings have to be chopped quite a lot for clearances...all this is without any lowering of the front end via the suspension

also done the welding of the stainless and ground down, looks like a bathtub, the seats have been positioned and shortened where necesary..and thats about it , apart from lots of umming and ahhing

heres the pix of the mock up taken from the computer..all other cameras are non functional in this house. Confused





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PostPosted: Wed Aug 21, 2013 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I see it now... from the top of the sill you gain 50mm drop, I've spent so much time looking at channeled 2cvs they look more original than from the factory!
Mine is 50mm at tge front and the bonnet just touches the alternator cowling...
I'm sure you can find a smaller V-belt, any automotive one will do.
Another concideration is to move the buldge fir the cylinder heads in the front guards... look at Lars turbo 2cv for pics, also relocated alternator if nessecery.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers harley, nice to know about the belt.

erm well the chassis has been reinforced ( a 3mm steel compression plate underneath the front suspension axle, and most of the foot well has been put in, so I can start bolting things back in a while

at the moment there is next to know movement at the back because im pretty much on the bump stops, I assume you snailers often raise the bump stops, because its seems impossible to be any lower otherwise?

any ideas about the maximum height they can go, and if poss some images of how it was done?

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ps the image is in reverse from the computer!!


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this afternoons progress, workshop work as its loads cooler in there, the rear seat is now sorted (well apart from the upholstery of coarse), sits as low as poss, Im 192cm and yes I just touch the roof but I had a beer in there and it wasnt bad at all!
I narrowed the back of the seat a smidgeon so it enters further into the car (more leg room for the nippers) and Im down to minimum leg height wise, any lower and your bum will notice the steel underneath you.

also as you can see the front legs have been brought inboard which I think is more subtle and in keeping.

what I was saying with chris W, the 3 spot welds to locate the body, ...I was sure the body was centred, but , when I put the bonnet on top check for the wings....way off to the left!, so cut the welds and readjust..tomorrows aim is to get the wings and light bar sorted

heres a couple of pix




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PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bump stops usually get cut out.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 1:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers josef, rear bumps stops are getting cut and raised (and reinforces just in case ) this afternoon

at last heres a pic of the clearance, its way high, this is about 2cm from bump stops all around...which ofcourse means it has no suspension Crying or Very sad ...so im in the process of cutting and raising the rear stops to give me the same height but a bit of bounce

its so nice to wheel this out and sweep under the car...10 days and 25years worth of work and accumulated mud under there!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok, so not being the type of person that works on any one thing for very long, I started looking at the bonnet, the connection with the wings was forced and not right, the bonnet needed an extra centimetre or 2!, also as if by magic the hinge needed sorting as it was starting to rot..so I plucked up the courage to give sidney a nose job Shocked

Ive added a 30mm x 1.5mm stainless angle to the steel near the air vent (angle part inside stops buckling and easier weld and strength, the outer flange gets welded onto the left over hinge which being double thickness steel is also easy to weld, gives me an extra 15mm or so at that point which makes the bonnet fit great. also I can adjust the bad citroen detail at the hinge so water doesnt collect there anymore Wink

also wings had dints beaten out and flanges beaten in for tyre issues, the light bar now works in the right position and I think Ive solved the problem with clearabnces and the acculmulator by moving the bonnet..win win!

oh and the front bumper has been reshaped a bit and the hideous rear bumper hammered flatter and ground down a bit.its actually starting to grow on me



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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 12:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I started looking at the bonnet, the connection with the wings was forced and not right, the bonnet needed an extra centimetre or 2!


Going fast on this one!
Not sure for the looks with that nose job, but maybe no one will notice and I could be wrong...
Even of that, good luck with it!
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 25, 2013 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers wout, the bonnet will be the last thing anyone around here will be looking at I assure you Rolling Eyes

ok reaching the 2 week mark so I finally did the tricky stepped cross members for the floor and welded the second part of the floor in. there are some near impossible interior corners to grind and Im reticent to get the dremel out !
I loosely tried a bit of polishing on the stainless and it looks acceptable so I think Ill do some more tomorrow, I really dont want to paint the floor if I can help it but it means all the welds have to be impeccable Rolling Eyes
er, mostly Im getting very frustrated at the engine, which I expected would be turning by now..still very stiff in parts..I assume where the valves are opening and closing.itll be difficult to stop me not taking the heads off tomorrow to de coke..is there anything fundamental I should know?...I havent got the gaskets or the book yet so I wont be putting them back on but I need to get the engine turning for my sanity!!

also bought some bling for the rear arches..those shiny gravel protector things, and the new roof (jade green..my girls choice)and exhaust is ordered


heres the pix (found an extra cable for the phone so a bit better quality than normal :)





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PostPosted: Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good! You are a master of confusion by mirroring pictures, the car changes from LHD to RHD to LHD... Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 27, 2013 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oh yes Im a happy chappy! first start up since 1989 or so

now need new gaskets and filters and fuel tank leak sorting and Ill be driving into walls! (no brakes yet either)

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