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JoZeF
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I raised the floors 11,5cm
the higher you go the more you have to modify. around 6-7 I believe life is quite easy doing a channeling job.
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:46 am Post subject: |
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| JoZeF wrote: | I raised the floors 11,5cm
the higher you go the more you have to modify. around 6-7 I believe life is quite easy doing a channeling job. |
I like the theory behind it I also like the look.
I also very much like the one you did.
Thats the thing though, Its the one you did.
I dont want to copy your one as I have just ducked out of a scene where the rulebook is pretty tight, The VW scene is getting very boring as everyone needs the same type of wheels, the same colour combos.
They all follow each other around like sheep, Its getting very limiting and will cause itself to implode in the end.
The day will come soon when somebody will be nailed to a tree covered in Honey and left for the ants for suggesting fitting the wrong year bonnet catch
As for My Ami.
I just feel a bit bad about channeling something that... I dunno I cant explain it, but I will try?
First off, Trust me I am a Kustom man through and through usually.
I will build something that looks right in my eyes and to damned with the purists,and I want to have fun with this one.
I am more into Barris than Pebblebeach concourse.
On this one though the plan is...
Wind it down, repair the rot,keep the patina, Maybe the odd accessory and Kustom bolt on. but I dont want to go doing irreversable stuff if that makes sense?
Looking at bits and bobs It seems to have had a very easy life before getting forgotten and left to rot.
There is a lot of bits that dont appear to be very worn on it, the engine feels tight and new, and the interior looks like its not had much use.
add that to the low Kms shown on the Speedo.
I lot of things dont add up with this car,The back panel for example, It could well be an old resto, but it could be a pretty unmolested low mile car that had a rear ender early in its life?
I may be wrong though?
Add to that that they are not exactly falling out of every tree in this country...So as tempted as I am I know my limits
When I tear down my 2cv for a rework on the other hand, I have allsorts of Madness/Tricks planned for that one.  |
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Etienne
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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You could also put some spacer between body and chassis. It would look stupid and drive awfully but nobody did it before.
My point is, copying good ideas is good. And a channeling is just a technical solution to get a car looking lower. But there's still lots of varieties of styles available. And anyway, your 6 will never looks like Jozef's anyway. And still even if it was the same, it would be still the only one in your neighborhood !
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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| Etienne wrote: | You could also put some spacer between body and chassis. It would look stupid and drive awfully but nobody did it before.
My point is, copying good ideas is good. And a channeling is just a technical solution to get a car looking lower. But there's still lots of varieties of styles available. And anyway, your 6 will never looks like Jozef's anyway. And still even if it was the same, it would be still the only one in your neighborhood ! |
I like Jozefs one like I said It will be a bit lower but it wont be that low as I will be landlocked.
to get out of my road one way there Is 3 speedramps and the other way there is 8 of the things.
I have owned enough Low VWs to know this gets a bit boring everytime I want to leave the driveway and scrape my way out of the neighbourhood.
Maybe Im just getting to be a boring Old Fucker
Love the new picture up top BTW |
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Etienne
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:04 pm Post subject: |
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More you channel, and easier it will be to drive over the speed bumps. You might have drive with lowered VWs, but a lowered stiffer channeled 2 CV will still be more confortable than a stock beetle 
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JoZeF
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| Posted: Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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I was merely suggesting that while you're doing the job of renewing the whole floorpan, you could channel it a bit.
Of course I maxed out mine in the channeling department because the style of the build could accept no other way.
I never scraped the car on speedbumps, it did however scrape a bit getting out of the odd underground car park. But the chassis was 7 or 8 cm off the ground and it was driveable everywhere.
Funny that because in the pics (and even more so in real life) it looks a low as it can get, but it wasn't a pain at all to use.
Only nice comfort improvement would have been better seats. Other than that, suspension wise with the race springs and shocks it was as hard as a ford fiesta or Peugeot 205 frankly.
Several people have channeled their A-type just the height of the sills, (6cm more or less) so the floors level with the top of the sills. totally discreet but still does wonders.
anyways, you've got a cool project whatever you do
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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Right I have chewed it over, and I am not going to be Channeling this one...
However I have been doing stuff.
Door panels shuffled into piles of usable, fixable and fubared and stacked up on my special shelf at work.
Ami now on my on my back drive for the start of its stripdown.
My VW Fastback has gone to pastures new.
 but needs must
You will note it is not rusty, or have a roofrack covered in crap, or running Empi/foosh wheels (Just Really rare 70s Mag industries) or is it incredably low... just dialed down a smidge under stock:D
I now have a shedule to work to.
Now dont get me wrong I CAN weld, but I dont like welding and cannot weld in a manner i am happy with.
So I had a chat with my secret weapon, We shall call him Swamp, for that Is the name he is called
Swamp can weld, Swamp likes welding, Swamp is rather good at welding, Swamp was rather fired up by my new project yesterday when he saw it.
Swamp is a fantastic all round human being, althoug you wouldnt invite him around polite company, It seems he is specifically bred for making fixing wierd and wonderful stuff
He is an all round Good egg and in his rare spare time he even writes for this rather cool if I say so Hotrod/Karculture/coolshit, magazine.
http://www.raygun-industries.co.uk/raydar/
Unfortunately Swamp lives in Rugby and I live in Slough, But wait.... Swamp has offered to pop around for a couple of weekends and do his thing.
Deal is I cut, I prep, I shape and I fold any repair fillets and tack it all together.
This is my Forte.
Swamp rocks up has a weldathon... we feed/water him and give him somewhere to kip.
There is more to this deal but he has just had the above VW Fasty and a pile of spares that could fill a transit for very much mates rates.
He is coming back in about 4 weeks to do the deed
So I will be stripping out, cutting, bending, fettling and tacking things together In the sound knowledge that even on tacks it will be stronger than it is now.
The bottom of the shell the real important bit where everything holds everything else together .So this is the place we will be concentrating on at the moment
...and then the weldathon begins, Got that? then lets begin. |
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2012 11:53 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway the majority of the other sunday was invested in putting up an "Easy to construct" Gazebo and lashing the thing down as best I could.
These things are neither designed for wind ,snow.... or winter use in general and they certainly were not intended for using as a workshop
Will give it a go though as the other option is working on Dry days only, and summer is over.
I also rigged up an extention lead so I can have light and do a little in the evenings ...well thats the theory if Im not too knackered:lol:
But at about 4pm I managed to do a little.
Now before you all gasp and say "You shoulda Braced that mate" the A and B posts were flapping about anyway and took little persuasion to pull the remnants of the Sill off by hand.
So It looks like careful measuring and keeping the doors/ Wings on to check alignment for now will be the way to go (it worked on the Morris Minor I did years back so im guessing it will work the same here)
Theory is if the door fits in the hole with even gaps then its right.
Back seat will go to storage before I get busy with the Grinder/welder It wasnt in my way earlier so it stayed.
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brammie
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| Posted: Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:54 pm Post subject: |
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"You shoulda Braced that mate"
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were can I buy me a swamp?
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:24 pm Post subject: |
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| brammie wrote: | ...................................................................
"You shoulda Braced that mate"
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were can I buy me a swamp? |
Yup I will do on the other side where there is something worth bracing to
As for buying a Swamp I really dont know where to get one as they stopped making them in the late 70s due to health and safety regulations.
I got real lucky locating this one
Anyway...
First thing i did tonight was to start constructing a Shrine to the Bottom 4 inches of this car, It rests in many peices.
I have a feeling this pile is going to get much bigger over the coming weeks.
but panic not, fresh metal is here, have even found my nibbler which was nice, nowhere near stitching it back together but I needed a pick me up.
so it is sort of ballanced into place right now.
I will need to make a repair section for below the seat base and under the back of the sill but that will wait till the shell is off the chassis and upside down. |
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| Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2012 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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I know how you can feel like you're talking to yourself on here!
so just a thumbs up from me, I'm enjoying this thread 
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:39 pm Post subject: |
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| breninfrance wrote: | I know how you can feel like you're talking to yourself on here!
so just a thumbs up from me, I'm enjoying this thread |
Cheers, Anyone spot the really stupid mistake I made?
I blame working by torchlight myself, Lucky I didn't weld anything in |
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Anyway here is tonights update, nothing is welded in yet, and nothing is in its final position, it is however all getting closer to where it is all supposed to be. and there is the odd bolt/selftapper pinning bits together here and there.
I have hit solid non frilly metal here and there to stitch to, Looks like I will be stitching to what I have to go from as I have some Datums to go from now.
Some Datums is a whole load better than No Datums, then when I have stiched it up I can cut some more frilly out and work from the solid stuff back.
So Things are looking up, still need to jiggle the A and B pillars about as the door gaps are a bit hit and miss.
It is getting closer though.
Need to put the captive nuts back in the sill for the seatbelt mount too (When it is all lined up a bit better)
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Harley
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| Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:16 am Post subject: |
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Great project unhinged and nice write ups.
It would be a real shame if you didn't channel it while your there...
By doing it the height of the sills, 50-60mm you will have very little clearance issues and still be able to maintain a very practical ride height.
Plus by channelling you get to cut out lots of the frilly bits and not have to weld as much back in 
I did 50mm at the front and 70mm at the back on mine and imo it looks more factory with the sill hanging down over the chassis than they do originally.
I think it will be one of those things that you will regret in the future if you don't do it now.
Keep up the posts!
Harley
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Mr Unhinged
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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Did a bit of patch making today
Not happy with the front 90 degree curve where it goes towards the sill so that will need tightening up
Quite chuffed with the swage I put in using a Hammer and the gap between 2 paving slabs as a Dolly
Its nearly time for hot metal glue. a few more fillets to make and its going to start being stitched up. |
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