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JoZeF
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

might be an idea to ditch the 2cv rack altogether.

now here is an idea, I don't know whether I'll be able to explain correctly, but anyways :

If you use the steering rack from any suitable car from the breakers you should be able to fit it to the OG axle tube and adapt it from there. there must be something out there that's suitable.

if the driving position and steering wheel are to be up front and the steering rack behind, you could fit the adapted rack facing fowards, it could make life easier connecting it up with universal joints etc.

But would require a LHD steering rack for building a RHD car and vice versa if my brain is working properly Very Happy

not sure that made much sense but Tony if you can make any logic out of it you might find a way to complete your project ?
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The steering is indeed a challenge.
It's bad there's no technique pictures of the replica G.

Maybe something like the HY only the diameter of an 2cv steeringrack is smaller than an HY.

Did sombody have the magazine thats stay in the replica?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 17, 2012 5:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried a ford steering rack Jozef and mounted it to the engine above the gearbox. I then adapted the 2cv steering arms to accept the ford track rod ends.
The problem i then had was getting a straight line from the rack to where the steering column would be and then getting it to turn 90 degrees to fit the bottom on the column.
Ive since looked at an H van steering machanism and think this would be the way forward provided you can get the linkage to clear the engine.

Good luck, i will be watching this one!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2012 11:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe the steering parts of an suzuki carry would be of better size!?
or put in any hydro power steering
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 1:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like fun!




http://www.citroenet.org.uk/prototypes/g-van/gvan.html

I think that replica looks great!


I checked out the original at the Conservatoire CitroŽn...

Note the double 2cv-like front arms! Shocked
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,
You could try "Trailing Arm"front suspension.
I have some pics or see I2F forum 2cv 4x4

Peter

ps How do you post pics on this forum?
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greet pics and info about the scales Hjulius!

Verry usefull. More pics and info is welcome. I think about to use the steeringparts about an HY and cut them smaller to fit in the G.

The front arms looks like a 2cv only at the backside is like an HY?
I was also in the conservatoir to only i made nott a lott detailphotos about the technical parts Confused
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy
Look again, the front arms are actually V-shaped, like twin 2cv arms mounted on the same rotational axis...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're right! it looks like the arms are meant to be like that, and the rear arm are very short, presumably for higher payloads, but what looks interesting is the steering rack, it looks to be on a weird angle? I'm sorry I don't know how to highlight the picture, but second image, overhead veiw, incorperated within the front axle like a 2cv shows the steering rack (cremallier!) but it's on the piss???
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hjulius wrote:
Very Happy
Look again, the front arms are actually V-shaped, like twin 2cv arms mounted on the same rotational axis...


Like 2cv racer/offroad front arms Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yes, and no, there's very little castor evident, but structure wise, spot on!

it's not clear if it's double ball joint, but I assume it is, two king pins would work, but two ball joints are best!
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 27, 2012 12:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks verry strong the double arms.

At the backside it looks also a litle 2cv swingarm. Did somebody knows how the suspension works? Same as an 2cv
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 17, 2012 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A movie about the replica on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2BBg2RK0fA

I see at an other movie (i can't found it now Crying or Very sad) that he cuts the chassis at the front to build looks likes the same as original.
I think thats verry difficult to get a licence here in Holland. I doesn't cut it of and build it on a full Ami 8 chassis whit acadiane engine and gearbox.

More info and the titel about the magazine (in the replica at the front) is welcome
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 18, 2013 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.leboncoin.fr/utilitaires/40699659=16_s
Buy this, drop a custom G van body on it, forward steering and 4x4!

Harley
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 19, 2013 12:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

original citroen parts is nicer Wink

Is there somebody thats know wat kind off magazine there in the front window off the replica G?
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