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my 425cc and a little introduction
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:03 pm    Post subject: my 425cc and a little introduction Reply with quote

hello
my name is Brendan, and I live in the Auvergne France, but I am an Englishman.

I was lead here from another forum, and I like the thinking.
I'm a biker type, with a passion for 2cv's

my current ride may not qualify for the forum Embarassed

it's my fourth 2cv, but the others have been 2cv6's

my new baby is a 1966 saloon

425cc and supposedly 18bhp

it was a non runner, and I've not yet driven it, so I have no idea how adequate or inadequate 18bhp is.

it however is not getting lowered Shocked

my plan for it, is to retro it, ripple bonnet, weld up the rear windows, small rear window, etc, and probably a 602cc (but I'd like to retain 6 volts),

unfortunately I missed suicide doors by two years, but i may retro fit them, at a later date, it's a future wish, not a priority.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote







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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"sacrilege" is just bloody lovely, and if I achieve half of that I'll be happy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a very nice car, please keep it as it is...
Why don't you buy a 1950's model if you want one. This is a complete unmodified 1966 2 CV AZA, it's certainly not that common. + even if you modify it, it will still be obvious it's not a 1950's model.
Sorry if it sounds rude, but I just can't understand why people with nice car want to spoil them...
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Etienne"]Sorry if it sounds rude, quote]
that sounds almost like you're..........being nice
are you feeling oke? Wink

but you're right Etienne!
it's a great looking AZA
even the egine looks clean

don't mess it up
just buy an older one if you want one
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the engine was the first point of assault, it fired up with minor fettling, but pissed oil out of the pushrod tubes, so both barrels were pulled off, and new seals fitted.
heads were stripped and cleaned whilst off, and the bores, pistons and rings were in superb order, I'm concerned about the amount of play in the big end, but now it's assembled and running, there's no sign of knock!!
but it has yet to be driven in anything but first and reverse, so time will tell.
new points and condensor fitted as a matter of course, and the carb had new seals fitted to the spindle.
and the play taken out with chemical metal, the carb was stripped and cleaned, then the spindle was smeared with vaseline, the oval hole was filled with glop (chemical metal) and the spindle inserted, then left to set overnight. (time will tell how long that bodge lasts!).
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I´m with Etienne. I really like this car as it is, but it´s yours. It is kind of between models.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL Shocked

this was the last place I expected to get told off for modifying?????? Shocked

it's not so special, it's the base model, and no suicide doors or chrome trims (it even only has one sun visor).

it has floor mounted pedals, it's six volts, so nice pull cable starter, choke/heater buttons, a nice speedo, a lovely simple two spoke steel steering wheel and the front seat is a bench, which I like. (and after the next post, I've come back to edit, I'm disproportionately fond of the glass jar brake reservoir!)

but the body tub is pretty standard, six windows, normal doors, normal bonnet, apart from the dash, it could be a 2cv6.

NO!, I'm afraid it's going to get retro'd. what I really want is a fifties ripple four window, but they're out of my price range, so I purchased as old as I could afford, and then I'm going to reverse progress!

I've already purchased the ripple bonnet!!!, there's no going back now!!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or is that "it's all back from now"???

after the engine, I did the gaiters on the driveshafts, and then onto the brakes.

these were a proper headache Sad the shoes were no problem, but the wheel cylinder seal kits were a farce, the suppliers weren't sure which ones to supply, cos of the year range, so I ordered both, and they were both bloody wrong, then I ordered the master cylinder seal kit,(for the year range), and that was also wrong, when I complained, it turns out they don't have the kit for mine!!!, just a master complete, I found a seal kit online, in Germany, but when trying to buy it(online), the postage kept coming up £20, so I phoned up Germany and bitched, £20, for an envelope with a few seals in? are you taking the piss?, but they wouldn't budge!!

so I cleaned everything as best as I could and reasembled with what I had, they work and don't leak, but the amount of bloody seals I bought, it should all be as new, and isn't Evil or Very Mad

anyone need any seals Rolling Eyes, it'd cost me more to return them than they're worth Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kingpins are surprisingly as good as new Shocked

so I now had a running braking car!




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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

although it (he) lives in the barn, I can't weld or grind in there, there's firewood and hay in there too,


so any welding has to be done outside on nice days
and there's lots and lots of it
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just lower the front a little and leave as it is it cool as fuck.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 18, 2012 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

breninfrance wrote:
LOL Shocked

this was the last place I expected to get told off for modifying?????? Shocked

it's not so special, it's the base model, and no suicide doors or chrome trims (it even only has one sun visor).


Snail is not about modifying. It's a about style.

It's exactly because it's a simple model than it is interesting. And AZAs are much more rare than AZAMs nowadays... So yes it's special mostly because it's complete and untouched.
And I really think it looks great now. You could just channel it and it would be awesome.
But hey up to you anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on with the butchery

the chassis is surprisingly solid (well repairable anyway) for a 50 year old car.
the outriggers had disappeared completely, and there was some perforation below the bulkhead, I opened the floor pan up to check the ends of the X brace, and it had seperated, but it was still repairable




I also braced the top rails with angle iron (not pictured) where the chassis is prone to bending
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the bodyshell is another matter altogether, the front bulkhead had gone, and without the outriggers the body had sunk about five centimetres, if I grabbed the A post, I could lift the body off, making the pedals waggle Shocked

the bottom of the sills had gone completely too.

I chose to weld box section inside the sills, the top half was still good, and I wanted to keep some body rigidity as there was very very little stopping the body from bending.

gratuitous rust shots







I just like these photo's


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