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mikehine
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2010 11:01 am    Post subject: Atlas whitewall inserts Reply with quote

I've just bought some Atlas whitewall inserts and tried to fit them on a tubeless 125 michelin. When I try to reinflate the tyre they won't stay in place. I fitted them dry. Euro retro tell me I don't need the steel rim embellishers to hold them in place. Franzose tell me I do. Does anyone have experience or tips , please?
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fransoze tells you you need the trim, cause in Germany this kind of white wall fitted between rims and tires are forbidden.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And they are forbidden because they wear the sides of the tyres out

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Thanks for the help. But do you mean Franzose don't know what they're talking about because they have no experience of whitewall inserts because they're illegal in their country?
Are there usually problems getting them to stay on (in other countries)?
My deuche does very little mileage so I'm not too worried about tyre wear.
Finally, if there are these problems why do I see so many whitewalls on nice sites like this?
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I really appreciate it.
Mike
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 12:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cause the real whitewals are painted
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

a real whitewall is not painted. the canvas is white and the rubber is black.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Etienne wrote:
Fransoze tells you you need the trim, cause in Germany this kind of white wall fitted between rims and tires are forbidden.


Thats suprising!

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Malte
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2010 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think you are mixing up the different types of whitewall rings.

1.ATLAS
the atlas whitewalls are put between rim and tire.
these ones are illegal in germany and really dangerous.
they could rubb down the tirewall and fuck up your tire!
http://www.portawallshop.com/images/DSCN4337.JPG

2.RAVUS
the white-wall rings which are sold by derfranzos.de are
Ravus whitewall rings. they are clipped in the rim by chrome rings.
they are more or less legal in germany.
http://www.ravus.de/

there is also the option of vulcanizing white rings at your tires. but this is really expensive!
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mikehine
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 4:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot, Malte. Clarity at last. Do you have the Ravus rings or any information on whether they work, please?
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Malte
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're welcome!

ravus ones exist of 3 pieces

a black plastic ring

a white plastic ring ( the wall )

a chrome ring

black and white rings are getting clipped in the "border"of the rim.
chrome ring fixes that!

see here:

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mikehine
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 8:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Again, thanks a lot. Dyou have them on your car and do they work?
I have already paid for some Atlas ones which don't work and I don't want to order from der Franzose unless I'm confident they work.
Thanks again for your time.
Mike
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Malte
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 9:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

they work great with a lot of tire sizes!

but at some(for example 155/70/15 ) there is a little wave in the white-wall.
but you only see that when you go take a look at it really close.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Malte. I've ordered some from der Franzose.
Now to get rid of the Atlas ones!
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Malte
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2010 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you're welcome!

sell them on ebay, i also did so! Wink

wanna see a photo witht mounted wall's later!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2010 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has any1 tried these:

http://www.franzose.de/en/Citroen-2CV/AMI6-8/Reifen-Felgen/ANR12331/

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